Jeff Hiller
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                                2021年4月12日 GMT+8 21:36                            
                        
                        
                                                    Hi John,
Axisymmetry means that everything in the 3D problem definition is invariant by rotation about a straight line. I don't see how that applies to your problem.
Best,
Jeff
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                            Hi John,
Axisymmetry means that everything in the 3D problem definition is invariant by rotation about a straight line. I don't see how that applies to your problem.
Best,
Jeff
                        
                                                
                                                                                                            
                                             
                                            
                            
                                                                                        
                                Robert Koslover
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                                2021年4月12日 GMT+8 22:38                            
                        
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                                2021年4月12日 GMT+8 22:52                            
                        
                        
                                                    I suspect that you might be able to accomplish your objectives by creating a 3D structure that includes only (and exactly) 1 turn, and (for the case of 100 turns) a pie wedge worth of the subject torus (with a pie wedge of the surrounding space, too) consisting of 360/100 (aka, 3.6) degrees in azimuth, and then applying periodic boundary conditions.  If you do take that approach, you'll want to set up the model very carefully and make sure you fully understand the details.  If accounting for the (likely-modest) perturbation to the inductance due to the slight pitch to the windings is actually important to you, then it could be worth the effort.  You could even check it, in part, by preparing a two-turn model (a 7.2 deg pie wedge) and then see if you obtain the same result.
Added:  For an example of using periodic boundary conditions in cases of section-wise rotational symmetry, see the "sector_generator_3d.mph" model provided in the Comsol Application Library.
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                            I suspect that you *might* be able to accomplish your objectives by creating a 3D structure that includes only (and exactly) 1 turn, and (for the case of 100 turns) a pie wedge worth of the subject torus (with a pie wedge of the surrounding space, too) consisting of 360/100 (aka, 3.6) degrees in azimuth, and then applying periodic boundary conditions.  If you do take that approach, you'll want to set up the model *very carefully* and make sure you fully understand the details.  *If* accounting for the (likely-modest) perturbation to the inductance due to the slight pitch to the windings is actually important to you, then it could be worth the effort.  You could even check it, in part, by preparing a two-turn model (a 7.2 deg pie wedge) and then see if you obtain the same result.
Added:  For an example of using periodic boundary conditions in cases of section-wise rotational symmetry, see the "sector_generator_3d.mph" model provided in the Comsol Application Library.                        
                                                
                                                                                                            
                                             
                        
                        
                            
                                                                                        
                                Walter Frei
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                                2021年4月13日 GMT+8 04:16                            
                        
                        
                                                    As Robert says, a good approach here is to consider a "pie-slice" of just one turn. You can actually take that a bit futher, and cut that pie slice in half via the PMC symmetry condition (parallel to direction of current flow) and in half again, via the Magentic Insulation symmetry condition (in the plane of the toroid, and you'll then be left with a very simple model to solve in 3D. Regarding symmetry, see also: https://www.comsol.com/blogs/exploiting-symmetry-simplify-magnetic-field-modeling/ and note that you could also consider the finite precession if you wanted to, as Robet says, using the Periodic condition.
                                                 
                                                
                            As Robert says, a good approach here is to consider a "pie-slice" of just one turn. You can actually take that a bit futher, and cut that pie slice in half via the PMC symmetry condition (parallel to direction of current flow) and in half again, via the Magentic Insulation symmetry condition (in the plane of the toroid, and you'll then be left with a very simple model to solve in 3D. Regarding symmetry, see also: https://www.comsol.com/blogs/exploiting-symmetry-simplify-magnetic-field-modeling/ and note that you could also consider the finite precession if you wanted to, as Robet says, using the Periodic condition.