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Friction with 3.5a (without MEMS, Chemical Eng. Mod. or Heat Trans. Mod.), models, advice?

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Hello,

I'm trying to figure out how to specify friction with 3.5a without the use of the following three modules:
1) MEMS
2) Chemical Engineering
3) Heat Transfer

I've researched the 3 available user guides for COMSOL version 3.5a, and only one page mentions friction, but only in theory (no programming application). Also, upon researching friction in COMSOL models online, 5 models are tagged with "friction," yet all 5 involve one of the 3 aforementioned modules (or version 4.0a) of which I do not have.

How can I specify friction with 3.5a? (Using COMSOL Multiphysics Module and Structural Mechanics Module only)

Are there any other example models (besides the 5 mentioned) that may help me?

Basically, which application modes under COMSOL Multiphysics and Structural Mechanics Module for 3.5a can specify friction (ex. Solid Stress/Strain, Thermal-Structural Interaction, etc.), and what is the variable symbol for friction with 3.5a?

Any help?

Thanks,
Kevin

5 Replies Last Post 2010年9月24日 GMT-4 07:57
Ivar KJELBERG COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)

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Posted: 1 decade ago 2010年9月19日 GMT-4 06:10
Hi

there is the example of the sliding slope case, but you should perhaps define what you want to do whith the friction, heat genration, motion loss (egenmode damping ...)

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Good luck
Ivar
Hi there is the example of the sliding slope case, but you should perhaps define what you want to do whith the friction, heat genration, motion loss (egenmode damping ...) -- Good luck Ivar

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Posted: 1 decade ago 2010年9月19日 GMT-4 19:25
Hello,

I'm specifically interested in motion loss caused by kinetic friction.

Apparently, there isn't an accessible model file for sliding slope, but a couple of articles seem to discuss the theory aspect behind it.

How would I express this sliding slope situtation with COMSOL 3.5a (under boundary expressions, boundary conditions, constants, etc.), and which applications should I use (3-D Solid/Stress, Strain)? I'm trying to model this sliding slope on a circular boundary (or hollow cylinder) in a 3D regime.

Best,
Kevin
Hello, I'm specifically interested in motion loss caused by kinetic friction. Apparently, there isn't an accessible model file for sliding slope, but a couple of articles seem to discuss the theory aspect behind it. How would I express this sliding slope situtation with COMSOL 3.5a (under boundary expressions, boundary conditions, constants, etc.), and which applications should I use (3-D Solid/Stress, Strain)? I'm trying to model this sliding slope on a circular boundary (or hollow cylinder) in a 3D regime. Best, Kevin

Ivar KJELBERG COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)

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Posted: 1 decade ago 2010年9月20日 GMT-4 05:45

Hi

in my doc 3.5a smemodlib.pdf p 141 and thereon there is the slidong edge axample with friction, no ?

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Ivar
Hi in my doc 3.5a smemodlib.pdf p 141 and thereon there is the slidong edge axample with friction, no ? -- Good luck Ivar

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Posted: 1 decade ago 2010年9月24日 GMT-4 04:45
Hey,

How do I find this file: smemodlib.pdf? You mention its on page 141, but of what exactly, not the COMSOL Multiphysics User's Guide or Modeling guide? I tried searching the Online model exchange and all files online as well, but no pdf files for smemodlib popped up.

Is there a link for this pdf file?

Thanks for your help,

Kev
Hey, How do I find this file: smemodlib.pdf? You mention its on page 141, but of what exactly, not the COMSOL Multiphysics User's Guide or Modeling guide? I tried searching the Online model exchange and all files online as well, but no pdf files for smemodlib popped up. Is there a link for this pdf file? Thanks for your help, Kev

Ivar KJELBERG COMSOL Multiphysics(r) fan, retired, former "Senior Expert" at CSEM SA (CH)

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Posted: 1 decade ago 2010年9月24日 GMT-4 07:57
Hi

smemodlib.pdf is the Structural Mechanics module MODEL LIBRARY V3.5a

if you do a search for *.pdf on your .../comsol3.5a/doc folder you should find it
(if you have the sme module, which might not be the case, for me its an essential item if you do structural analysis)

I usually index all my COMSOL PDF files with the MS indexer helps to find my way in there

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Good luck
Ivar
Hi smemodlib.pdf is the Structural Mechanics module MODEL LIBRARY V3.5a if you do a search for *.pdf on your .../comsol3.5a/doc folder you should find it (if you have the sme module, which might not be the case, for me its an essential item if you do structural analysis) I usually index all my COMSOL PDF files with the MS indexer helps to find my way in there -- Good luck Ivar

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